It’s only available from their site as they are the people who created it.

Trev

Not heard of Brainboost (sorry). Brain Evolution System comes with tablets (called Acuity) but not tried them personally so can’t say for sure.

Trev

Thanks for your long & considered reply. Sorry mine will be shorter!

No – I’m not “long done” with the Meditation Program, I still listen to it on a near enough daily basis as I find that it helps me relax. Subjectively, I still think I’m getting worthwhile results from it although I admit I haven’t hooked up to a machine to measure my brain patterns.

The thing about fast working stuff is that we’re trained to expect that from modern day life. Fast food, instant TV playback, etc, etc. Some people won’t even last the eight weeks before moving on to something else. Others, like me, will stay on the meditation program longer. Others will move onto different methods. It’s horses for courses.

Glad you’re getting on well with Holosync!

Trev

I am currently at about the same point that you were, at 2 Years of Centerpointe Holosync, Level 4. The Holosync program from Level 4 to level 12 actually one year per level (as opposed to six months for per the first three). So your claim that you/we are “in the middle” or “midway” is quite incorrect. To be exact, time-wise, you did only 1/5 of the program – 2 years out of 10.

I am personally very suspicious of any magic bullet for meditation. Real gains in meditation are to be gotten gradually, even with the aid of some kind of technology. Just sticking some headphones with some noises for an hour a day does not change us. There are many others things we have to do to change. At best, any such CD is an aid.

Subjective blissful feelings and fireworks are not the judge of whether an entrainment CD “works.” I see a lot of immaturity on these forums/blogs around these issues. If you want a rush or a boom like drugs, well, you are probably going to bound to be searching for the “newest bestest greatest” CD that can give you a little high, just like any drug addict. Meditation without these CD’s can easily give you that – for free. And that is why meditation teachers have always been against this kind of thrill-seeking or attachment to experiences in meditation. To Centerpointe’s credit, in the support materials and in the free coaching (which I rarely hear about on these forums, I begin to think that most are burning the MP3s for free off the internet, already karmically a bad move to try to steal your enlightenment), they tell you to be unattached to your subjective experience.

One cannot judge whether one is going “deeper” purely through subjective experience. The only way that one could really tell how your brain is reacting is through neural-biofeedback. No reviewers that I have read have done this, that is, seen what is actually happening to their brainwaves. They just say, “I’m impatient” and go to another program, they get a different buzz experience, and say that’s “better.” Never mind that they have been using one or more other programs, and they have no idea what the effect of the previous has had on the experience on the current. It is not like they are going in “cold” to the new program, so on that count alone, they are a bad judge. But they also have no sense through objective scientific knowledge of what is happening in their brain. I read somewhere that some people use a program to make their own entrainment CD’s. They are not scientists, and they are not sound engineers. Who the hell knows what all of those stimuli are actually doing to their heads??? They could be really screwing themselves up.

What is see lacking from all of these companies is solid research that entrainment works long-term. Testimonials from users alone do not count. But I would suspect, in line with the great spiritual traditions, that if this binaural entrainment really does anything, it works with a longer-term program. There is no 8 week “zap-zap” and your life is transformed. The changes in your brain patterns take a long time to mix and work in with all the other parts of us. We need other conscious practices for the shifts to work through ourselves, to become less ego-centric, more wise and compassionate, and more “effective” in other ways.

I do not like Centerpointe Holosync’s over-marketing, and I am no big fan of Bill Harris. But, overall, it’s approach makes more sense to me than many of these others that make the same exorbinant claims in a few weeks. If you do the math, the expense is all on the front end. One you get to Level 4, with the promotional discounts, you are actually paying about $200 for a full year or meditation. Compare that to $85-$125 for 8 weeks, and then you are “done,” whatever that means. No doubt, thrill seekers will have spent hundreds more afterward trying other programs.

Thanks to Holosync, I am far more consistent with my meditation, and it has enhance the other practices I do that help me change. I put my own paraliminal track with mantras that are appropriate for me. Others report that I am certainly more even-keeled and compassionate, but I attribute that to the work I am doing overall. But it is only the beginning of a long-term process.

The reason Centerpointe say not to rip the CDs is that most people are likely to use the MP3 format. MP3 is a “lossy” compression (in much the same way as jpg’s are for images). The subliminal messages that are recorded over the CDs are likely to be regarded by the MP3 compression software as inaudible to the human ear and therefore fair game to be missed out. If you’re using a lossless format to transfer, I’m definitely in agreement that would be OK.

On the fast vs slow debate, again losing a large amount of weight almost overnight would generally be bad (or liposuction!). With regard to learning, in my NLP training I learned how the human mind prefers to learn fast rather than slow, hence my preference for speed in this case.

Trev

I have just reached Purification Level 1. When I bought I got a great special of the entire program for $2,500 AUD thought that was a steal. At the time I asked the consultant on the phone why do I not just get each level (entire package) at the one time. Now this answer goes back to the original post of Centrypoint technology being 20 years old and out of date….. This is not the case… Why you have to order each level as you need it is because they are constantly updating their technology on how the files/track etc are created/encoded etc and if you buy all at once and by year 5 you are then using outdated technology. They want you to have the newest technology every time you go to a new level. I hope this answer helps.

Fastest is not always best as some people may have problems with this. It would be like going on a crash diet and losing 20kg in 1 week. You get my point.

Lastly, I like to use my ipod to listen to my holosync so I have it with me no matter where I am in the world. Centrepoint state that unless you use the cd you lose quality (lower binoral beats) if you rip the CD in any way.

This is not the case. My husband is a computer scientist and understands encoding and I have asked audio friends the same question. You can rip the cd’s into digital. In the past, up to last level, we used a mac program called Max to do this as it allowed for better encoding.

Hubby found out last night that the latest itunes allowed me to insert the cd into my laptop, and rip it into digital with the very high quality encoding Loosless format so no quality is lost, I then just added the id tagging right within itunes and then dumped it on my ipod.

Hope the above information added value to this discussion.